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do the american people think irs targeting and nsa snooping are phony? jamie weinstein says, not a chance, and the administration should stop labeling these as stuff. jamie, there's a lot of them. benghazi -- phony scandal or not. >> even if nothing more comes out, it's no a phony scandal. the fact there were warnings about the threats to benghazi and nothing done to above up security, the american people see that as scandalous, but if nothing else comes out, even what we know right now is scandalous. >> the liberals, a lot of people say watergate was a real scandal. i don't know. no four americans dying at watergate. >> we know there were a chain of communications to the state department, to beef up security the, they knew there were warnings of trouble. and it wasn't beefed up. so i think that of itself is scandalous, and there's many more questions about benghazi. but by itself that's scandalous. >> who called for a standdown order and the talking points would be about the video, irs? >> the fact that tea party groups were targeted, in and of itself,
do the american people think irs targeting and nsa snooping are phony? jamie weinstein says, not a chance, and the administration should stop labeling these as stuff. jamie, there's a lot of them. benghazi -- phony scandal or not. >> even if nothing more comes out, it's no a phony scandal. the fact there were warnings about the threats to benghazi and nothing done to above up security, the american people see that as scandalous, but if nothing else comes out, even what we know right now...
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president sits down with cnn answering questions about washington and congress and a controversial nsa spying program. that's just ahead. i'm suzanne malveaux. as a small oklahoma town comes to grips with this senseless tragedy, one man is offering a possibly motive. it's hard to believe. this is in the shooting death of the australian baseball player. he was gunned down as he was jogging in the town of duncan. three teens have been charged. one suspect said they were bored. now an oklahoma man says that the killing was part of a gang initiatuation. he said his on son was on the list of targets. what is he saying? >> that man is james johnson. he told fairfax media he didn't think christopher lane's killing was random. he believe it was part of a gang initiatuation. it was johnson's call to police that ended with the arrest of 15-year-old james edward johnson and michael jones. johnson said the three teens threatened his on son because he refused to join a gang. police have not confirmed that the killing was gang related and cnn has tried to reach johnson repeatedly without success. we
president sits down with cnn answering questions about washington and congress and a controversial nsa spying program. that's just ahead. i'm suzanne malveaux. as a small oklahoma town comes to grips with this senseless tragedy, one man is offering a possibly motive. it's hard to believe. this is in the shooting death of the australian baseball player. he was gunned down as he was jogging in the town of duncan. three teens have been charged. one suspect said they were bored. now an oklahoma man...
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to the press, the nsa has no idea what data they took from him, how many documents he took, or what the documents are. the nsa has, quote, poor data organization and poor audit capability and that they have not been able to do a complete damage assessment of what this guy took. and this is who we have given the power apparently or who has claimed the power to monitor your e-mail and communications. they got the keys or at least they took the keys and it turns out they can barely reach the pedals let alone steer. in a democratic society rule is by the consent of the governed. power is given. it is lent with the consent of the governed. and we are not like hi to continue consenting to it if you misuse that power or, more importantly, if you are the freaking keystone cops who have no idea what you are doing with that power. joining us now is dan rather, anchor for dan rather reports on axs-tv. should it be comforting in a way that the government is incompetent at overreaching? is that better than if they were great at it? >> that's better than being great at it. as reporters we get pai
to the press, the nsa has no idea what data they took from him, how many documents he took, or what the documents are. the nsa has, quote, poor data organization and poor audit capability and that they have not been able to do a complete damage assessment of what this guy took. and this is who we have given the power apparently or who has claimed the power to monitor your e-mail and communications. they got the keys or at least they took the keys and it turns out they can barely reach the...
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the president talking about the nsa surveillance program that snowden revealed. he tries to reassure americans that big brother is not watching. take a listen. >> there is no spying on americans. we don't have a domestic spy program. we have mechanisms where we can track a phone number or e-mail address that we know is connected to some sort of terrorist threat. that information is useful. >> is the administration doing a good job of making its case that the surveillance programs are necessary for national security? perhaps even the latest closures of the embassies and the c consulat consulat consulates? >> they're not doing a good job explaining the necessity of these programs. there's a lot of americans who think it's an invasion of their privacy. i think administration officials, white house officials will acknowledge that they could be doing a better job. the president trying last night to explain, to make the case this is not an invasion of american's privacy but a lot of americans see this massive collection of information phone you remembe number, e-mail a
the president talking about the nsa surveillance program that snowden revealed. he tries to reassure americans that big brother is not watching. take a listen. >> there is no spying on americans. we don't have a domestic spy program. we have mechanisms where we can track a phone number or e-mail address that we know is connected to some sort of terrorist threat. that information is useful. >> is the administration doing a good job of making its case that the surveillance programs...
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further than that, the nsa and doj have been misleading the court. we knew some of the intelligence officials had lied to the public. now we know they've been lying to the courts, which depending on how you word it and look at it, is perjury. what court are we talking about? the fisa spying court approves 99.7% of all requests for surveillance. this is a very friendly court for any kind of broad surveillance, whether that's phone, meta data, electronic. this particular judge was appointed by george w. -- originally a george w. bush appointee, put on the courts by roberts, who's very friendly to this stuff. we have to take a big step back. you can still have the debate over whether you want really invasive surveillance of all of your electronic communications. what we learned this week, and what i think people have to get their arms around, is that we have the government lying to the very court that's supposed to oversee this, misleading that court over massive surveillance. so we haven't had the honest debate. we're finally getting little dribs and d
further than that, the nsa and doj have been misleading the court. we knew some of the intelligence officials had lied to the public. now we know they've been lying to the courts, which depending on how you word it and look at it, is perjury. what court are we talking about? the fisa spying court approves 99.7% of all requests for surveillance. this is a very friendly court for any kind of broad surveillance, whether that's phone, meta data, electronic. this particular judge was appointed by...
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senator john mccain has an interesting view on the former nsa contractor. >> there's a generation that believes he's some kind of jason bourne. >>> and look at this. first lady michelle obama tweeted this selfie with beau. it's to create the world's largest animal photo album. >>> and president obama might want to keep his day job. while golfing, check this out. the president lands the ball about 15 feet from the hole. second shot. good try. still not enough. another shot. nope. just shy of the hole. and then, finally, the fourth shot, mr. president, it goes in. just a tap. that's going to do it. i know, right? that's your morning dish of "scrambled politic." >>> authorities are searching for a woman that was rushed away during a massive mudslide. the mud poured down highways and residential streets. one person killed. about 40 cars were swept up in the river of mud. unbelievable. >>> now, for a look at the weather. here's dylan dreyer. and the pictures are unreal. >> it's unreal. that's the area that was hit by the waldo canyon fire a year ago. when the ground is that burnt up, it can
senator john mccain has an interesting view on the former nsa contractor. >> there's a generation that believes he's some kind of jason bourne. >>> and look at this. first lady michelle obama tweeted this selfie with beau. it's to create the world's largest animal photo album. >>> and president obama might want to keep his day job. while golfing, check this out. the president lands the ball about 15 feet from the hole. second shot. good try. still not enough. another...
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talk about the nsa and terrorism and the security being the american politics, cannot touch the funding for that and sort of walk back any of those policies means your soft on terror. same with crime. we have a policy that is working, but is the it really working? as i said, the long-term psychological effect and the fact that this point really to systemic failure in certain communities that begs much more serious policy, i think, than this sort of ad hoc racial fr k frisking. we don't ask though questions around safety and securitiant there's a huge incentive for politics whether the nsa or whether it's stop and frisk in minority communities or high-crime communities that there's a huge incentive for politicians to take steps that at least appear to maybe them look like they're solving a problem that's scaring people, and they're worry fundamental they turn them off or reorient in some way that addresses certain peoples concerns and crime or terrorism goes up, whether there's a causal connection, they'll be the ones to get blamed and themselves unable, even if they read a lot of convin
talk about the nsa and terrorism and the security being the american politics, cannot touch the funding for that and sort of walk back any of those policies means your soft on terror. same with crime. we have a policy that is working, but is the it really working? as i said, the long-term psychological effect and the fact that this point really to systemic failure in certain communities that begs much more serious policy, i think, than this sort of ad hoc racial fr k frisking. we don't ask...
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career west side the nsa have corroborated in this respect. the government has the ability to access from storage, the actual emails and texts that every american has sent in the past two and a half years and sound of telephone calls, voices that have made in the past two and a half years. example, the order signed by judge roger vincent in april of this year, four months ago, directed verizon to surrender the telephonic information on 113 million of its customers. that is more than half of the telephone base in the united states. president couldn't possibly not know that. >> neil: that is not, he said, the domestic surveillance program. >> i don't mow what the president means in his terminology. if capturing phone calls and emails and capturing texts of every american is not a domestic spying program, then nothing is. >> neil: you are very good lawyer and good judge besides. what he is saying if the intent isn't to spy on those in the united states. he is saying i it's not a domestic surveillance program. it's an effort to go through tracking
career west side the nsa have corroborated in this respect. the government has the ability to access from storage, the actual emails and texts that every american has sent in the past two and a half years and sound of telephone calls, voices that have made in the past two and a half years. example, the order signed by judge roger vincent in april of this year, four months ago, directed verizon to surrender the telephonic information on 113 million of its customers. that is more than half of the...
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the first way they get it is through passed along nsa intercepts. the second way they get it from regular informants. the third way they get it is from a large data base of telephone and internet data collected inside the united states. and the fourth way is through wiretaps from one investigation and applying it to the next investigation. and what they do is pass these tips along to agents in the field. when the agents are released to make arrests, a traffic stop, they'll pull somebody over for speeding or for a taillight that's out on a pretext. and then after the person is arrested, they won't tell them the true reason why they were pulled over. what the original source of the investigation was. >> if that is -- i recognize that's not unique to this special operations division of the dea as you documented on your reporting that law enforcement sometimes does this to essentially launder the original source of what leads to a prosecution. but in that case, how can a person fully defend themselves if they're not able to follow the accusation against
the first way they get it is through passed along nsa intercepts. the second way they get it from regular informants. the third way they get it is from a large data base of telephone and internet data collected inside the united states. and the fourth way is through wiretaps from one investigation and applying it to the next investigation. and what they do is pass these tips along to agents in the field. when the agents are released to make arrests, a traffic stop, they'll pull somebody over...
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at the same time, the judge, criticizing the nsa, admitted he let something go and the nsa lied to him. look at what we're finding out. 75% of e-mail traffic is getting swept up in this surveillance. the report says it's not malicious, it was just a mistake. >> and it's probably not. >> that's the answer, everyone says, what could go wrong? this is what could go wrong. the fact that all your e-mails are going to be under the apparatus. >> none of this happens without edward snowden. let's be realistic. do we really believe clapper would have released what he did today? the nsa would be deciding they need to be forthcoming? the president tried to say that's not true, they would have done this review. maybe they'd have done some of this but there's no way we'd be seeing all this. >> i think at least chelsea manning had the courage to face judge. the big issue here is that, you know, you have not just the government having access to this but tens of thousands of private contractors, right? every american has 75% of their e-mail traffic now in the hands of contractors who may end up lettin
at the same time, the judge, criticizing the nsa, admitted he let something go and the nsa lied to him. look at what we're finding out. 75% of e-mail traffic is getting swept up in this surveillance. the report says it's not malicious, it was just a mistake. >> and it's probably not. >> that's the answer, everyone says, what could go wrong? this is what could go wrong. the fact that all your e-mails are going to be under the apparatus. >> none of this happens without edward...
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>>> the president's defense of nsa snooping and a lot more from his one-on-one cnn interview is coming your way this hour >>> also, were those oklahoma teenagers accused of killing an australia student really just bored or did this have a little more to do with it? was it gain violence, racial hatred? >> and judge bell vin perry. some called him the ring master of the circus that was casey anthony's trial. he's going to join me to talk about another high profile trial. >>> hello, everyone and welcome to "legal view." it is friday, august 23rd ap today could be the day that the city of san diego can finally move on. mayor bob filner publicly accused by sexual harassment than no fewer than 18 woman could actually end up stepping down today and it's if city officials accept a prosed mediation agreement. our casey wian has been following the story live in san diego. all of these meetings seem to be behind closed clo doors. the mediation agreement was reached behind closed door. how much do we really know about this? >> reporter: we don't know a lot accept that, ashleigh, the potential resi
>>> the president's defense of nsa snooping and a lot more from his one-on-one cnn interview is coming your way this hour >>> also, were those oklahoma teenagers accused of killing an australia student really just bored or did this have a little more to do with it? was it gain violence, racial hatred? >> and judge bell vin perry. some called him the ring master of the circus that was casey anthony's trial. he's going to join me to talk about another high profile trial....
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. >> some of the things the nsa were doing were an overreach. >> why did he run to begin with, they want to expose the u.s. government why don't you go about it in the right way? go to the supervisors and the person above that supervisor. take your complaint. >> to the cabinet level lied in front of congress. >> can we just run fast in here the nsa's budget came within seven votes of getting beaten in the housefloor. there will be legislation. >> in other news al qaeda is on the rise. >> we haven't spoken. >> i just would like to see this great hero, edward snowden really, really speak truth to power, stand up to putin and say why have you beaten the hell out of gays. they are setting an antimessage for the olympics. here you have a guy condemning america, taking refuge in a place -- >> an enemy. >> i wouldn't call them an enemy but abuse gays and use children as pawns in adoption. this is an awful guy. he is now a pawn of putin. he can't speak truth to power. >> he is a pop. >> what are they doing? >> i think we have to do an entire segment on that on the olympics. i had a suggestion be
. >> some of the things the nsa were doing were an overreach. >> why did he run to begin with, they want to expose the u.s. government why don't you go about it in the right way? go to the supervisors and the person above that supervisor. take your complaint. >> to the cabinet level lied in front of congress. >> can we just run fast in here the nsa's budget came within seven votes of getting beaten in the housefloor. there will be legislation. >> in other news al...
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what can you tell us about the nsa's response? >> joy, i can tell you that the nsa is holding a conference call as we speak. i ran outside after having listened to part of that call to give you the latest information. it's being conducted by jim delong, the director of compliance with the nsa. and so far, he's made a few points in an attempt to push back against that "washington post" article. first he said no one at the nsa tolerates mistakes or thinks that mistakes are okay. when mistakes are determined they try to correct eb them as quickly as possible. he tried to put the number of mistakes into context, that report of thousands of instances, he made the point that over the course of just one month, the nsa conducts about 20 million queries. so according to mr. delong, the fraction of mistakes is really minuscule when you look at that 20 million figure. and then he also made one more point, joy, which is that some of those mistakes occurred with foreign nationals. so he really tried to put this into that broader context to tam
what can you tell us about the nsa's response? >> joy, i can tell you that the nsa is holding a conference call as we speak. i ran outside after having listened to part of that call to give you the latest information. it's being conducted by jim delong, the director of compliance with the nsa. and so far, he's made a few points in an attempt to push back against that "washington post" article. first he said no one at the nsa tolerates mistakes or thinks that mistakes are okay....
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a warrant and on top of that, the nsa makes mistakes. it's difficult to know the origin. so purely domestic calls get put into this database as well. so as the acl said in our piece, huge numbers are swept up by what the nsa calls foreign surveillance -- >> but i think glen -- >> i mean, this is an important clarification that this is primarily targeted at international e-mails, not purely domestic e-mails. now, as glen points out, there may be mistakes, there may be a lot of excess. >> we have to trust people. we have to trust thousands of people they won't abuse it. edward snowden some would say abused it, others would say blew the whistle. somebody with a more malicious mind who happens to have that authorization could cause serious damage. >> they can't -- the other thing is you can't separate out -- >> sorry, james. >> you can't separate out domestic from international that cleanly. that's one of the kind of statements that the obama administration has made repeatedly that they can make these clean kind of divides, and that's just n
a warrant and on top of that, the nsa makes mistakes. it's difficult to know the origin. so purely domestic calls get put into this database as well. so as the acl said in our piece, huge numbers are swept up by what the nsa calls foreign surveillance -- >> but i think glen -- >> i mean, this is an important clarification that this is primarily targeted at international e-mails, not purely domestic e-mails. now, as glen points out, there may be mistakes, there may be a lot of...
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to the point of what he has revealed, this was far more than even the nsa originally said, and the nsa says we don't act on all of this stuff. we garth it. i doesn't stay on our computers. i'm paraphrasing here. so no need to worry. but we keep mining out more and more of this stuff. >> the obama administration is now selectively release something information. post snowden leaks or disclosures where say, we use excessive reviews so you should trust us. the founders operated in a country that was much more imperiled than we are today and they concluded in the fourth amendment that american citizens should be protected from unreasonable search and seizure. >> neil: where do you draw the line? senator marco rubio about where the republicans are drawing the line, tough or terror, and then snooping on us. >> those are all with great respect towards you but those are all bumper stickers. can we get beyond bumper sticker politics in. >> neil: which is the bumper sticker? >> tough on terror, tough on such liberties -- >> neil: where do you err on the side of in that's the balancing act. >> i e
to the point of what he has revealed, this was far more than even the nsa originally said, and the nsa says we don't act on all of this stuff. we garth it. i doesn't stay on our computers. i'm paraphrasing here. so no need to worry. but we keep mining out more and more of this stuff. >> the obama administration is now selectively release something information. post snowden leaks or disclosures where say, we use excessive reviews so you should trust us. the founders operated in a country...
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the snas nsa released this stat, quote. steve, nancy pelosi released a statement calling this extremely disturbing. are we going to see more movement on this whole issue? >> i certainly hope so. another of karen's colleagues, dana priest, has chronicled how pathetic the congressional oversight is of the intelligence machinery of the country and i think this report continues to show that. what is disturbing to me about this report and karen raised with the issues of the various typos is how powerful algorithms are. when you're punching in data and so much is digitized the accident flow that comes out of these areas. a book by jim risen called "state of war," to connect that to that there was the -- showing our contacts in iran that were disclosed to the public because of another kind of similar error. so i think that we need to get in and see congress really review its own oversight of these bureaucracies. >> you put in 202 versus 20 that could result in what it did, it boggles the mind for the possibilities here. thank you
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i see a lot of people respond to me when i cover the nsa, concern about the nsa and whatever it is doing is an outgrowth of privilege, yourself. if you're trying to make sure your 16-year-old son isn't jacked up by cops every day, you're not that worried about whatever screen of data that is happening in some remote -- there's something to that, but then at the same time it also feels like this is a way of marginalizing a story about what the government can do that really is connected in a very direct way to what the government's doing up and down from the federal down to the local level. >> sure. i'm trying to push back against that marginalization. >> go ahead, james. >> trying to push back against that marginalization. it's difficult to do that because what you're saying is the real -- it's the real experiences of a lot of folk obviously in new york city, but pennsylvania also has stop and frisk. i think the zimmerman trial is important here as well. when you see vigilanteism on the rise, when you see these vigilante murders and see the ways in which stop and frisk and stand your grou
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the question everybody else is asking, so, are there more steps the nsa will take? more things they can do to kind of overlook our shoulder? these types of scenarios. >> always a balance but the point is that whoever it is in al qaeda that issued this threat or whatever it is that got the intelligence community's hair on fire, it wasn't a press release. release from al qaeda central. this is obviously some kind of intelligence over the internet, over phone calls, that led american officials to take these precautions that we're taking, and so obviously we do need that kind of surveillance. on the other hand, i can certainly understandy where a lot of americans are concerned about -- information about every domestic phone call gets swept up in the vacuum cleaner of the nsa and even the president is now talking, and democrats on capitol hill are talking about trying to tipped some balance. we have to be careful if we're going restrict or put some checks on the nsa and our electronic surveillance, we don't go in ways we miss -- as somebody said, you can't connect the do
the question everybody else is asking, so, are there more steps the nsa will take? more things they can do to kind of overlook our shoulder? these types of scenarios. >> always a balance but the point is that whoever it is in al qaeda that issued this threat or whatever it is that got the intelligence community's hair on fire, it wasn't a press release. release from al qaeda central. this is obviously some kind of intelligence over the internet, over phone calls, that led american...
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this is the nsa version of the apology tour, of the obama apology tour. this is a successful program. the nsa program is successful, and yet the president is allowing edward snowden, a traitor, to pull the puppet strings. >> a lot to talk about with david gergen, chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and dana bash. jessica, we heard the president make this a promise that it's going to become more transparent. he says it was already happening before the snowden leaks. but is that really realistic? >> well, as you point out, wolf, he did say that he wanted more transparency back in may. he said that. that was right before edward snowden's first leak was in june. so his assertion is that the snowden leaks just sped up a process that was going to happen any way. well, we also have to take a bigger look at the big picture, which is did snowden actually lead to these new safeguards he put in place? we know that two democratic senators have been calling for more transparency and even reforms for more than a year now. when the head of the intelligence co
this is the nsa version of the apology tour, of the obama apology tour. this is a successful program. the nsa program is successful, and yet the president is allowing edward snowden, a traitor, to pull the puppet strings. >> a lot to talk about with david gergen, chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and dana bash. jessica, we heard the president make this a promise that it's going to become more transparent. he says it was already happening before the snowden leaks. but is that...
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on americans. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly. i was asked when are you going to stop beating your wife kind of question which is meaning not answerable, necessarily, by a simple yes or no. so i responded in what i thought was the most truthful or least untruthful manner by saying no. >> that's the guy who's in charge of setting up the independent outside group of experts the president said would be in charge of making sure government surveillance programs maintain the trust of the people and are not abused. initial reports indicated that clapper, himself, would pick the members of the group. clapper's office has since pushed back and said he's not actually choosing members. according to the white house's memo, this independent group will be answering to clapper, briefing the president on their findings and recommendations through the director of national intelligence. through james clapper.
on americans. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly. i was asked when are you going to stop beating your wife kind of question which is meaning not answerable, necessarily, by a simple yes or no. so i responded in what i thought was the most truthful or least untruthful manner by...
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, coverage of the nsa program or to kind of obscure human intelligence, assets, and saying it was signals intelligence? >> sure, first to fran's point it's totally true this is one of many and one piece of information in a broad collection that the u.s. intelligence community has engaged in. this meeting was significant according to officials and reports in both "the new york times" and lots of other outlets because it was where the vague discussion of impending attack was discussed and if you look at the embassy closings around the world it matches the people on the call. so you can sort of understand why the u.s. government took such a broad approach. as for it being motivations in taking the risk, i can't speak to that. some of them they take risks on. this seems to be a risk they didn't take. as far as some of the other reporters linking this to the nsa and snowden and what have you, it's important to point out the programs disclosed by snowden are not related to this particular communication particularly intercepted. they are about collecting information, domestically and it's not re
, coverage of the nsa program or to kind of obscure human intelligence, assets, and saying it was signals intelligence? >> sure, first to fran's point it's totally true this is one of many and one piece of information in a broad collection that the u.s. intelligence community has engaged in. this meeting was significant according to officials and reports in both "the new york times" and lots of other outlets because it was where the vague discussion of impending attack was...
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melissa: they have to show that won't happen, but if you immediately think of the case with the nsa spying scandal and gathering all that they may need it later in and saying, if we want to use it later we will go and get a subpoena them but gather it in the meantime. could they be listening into my house and store it summer? >> we don't know. they say they're collecting manage data. what they do with the of permission is not publicly -- melissa: collecting. >> the general information and e-mails and the communications, who is being called, subject matter, subject lines, e-mail addresses, but not so much the content. we don't know. we have heard different reports on what the government is doing. melissa: that's right. there were asked directly during a hearing, have you listened in on the phone calls and they said, we're not allowed to do that or we're not allowed to have that -- didn't say whether or not they've actually done it. >> you're right. but bear in mind, the same people complaining about the intrusion on civil liberties are going to be the first people to objective there is anot
melissa: they have to show that won't happen, but if you immediately think of the case with the nsa spying scandal and gathering all that they may need it later in and saying, if we want to use it later we will go and get a subpoena them but gather it in the meantime. could they be listening into my house and store it summer? >> we don't know. they say they're collecting manage data. what they do with the of permission is not publicly -- melissa: collecting. >> the general...
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the fact is we were not adequately informed about what nsa is doing. i resent that, and i don't have any question about the vote that i cast being the right vote. >>> and you don't have any sympathy with those who would argue that this kind of trolling for information is justified on the basis of security and safety of this nation? >> you can justify it on an expedient base, martin, but we're supposed to be an example to the rest of the world. that's what america's values and principles are all about. it's times like this when they are challenged that it's most important for us to uphold them. you know, you, martin, i know make all kinds of international calls, and they know every call that you have made. >> they do. >> now, i trust this president and probably most, if not all, of the people that work for him. but what if we have a paranoid president such as nixon, and they decide they know everyone you have talked to, and everyone you have talked to is suspect. i don't like that kind of dragnet. that's not the way our legal system is supposed to opera
the fact is we were not adequately informed about what nsa is doing. i resent that, and i don't have any question about the vote that i cast being the right vote. >>> and you don't have any sympathy with those who would argue that this kind of trolling for information is justified on the basis of security and safety of this nation? >> you can justify it on an expedient base, martin, but we're supposed to be an example to the rest of the world. that's what america's values and...
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why not just call the nsa and have them do the listening. oh, i forgot. the fbi doesn't talk to other agencies. isn't that whee wi didn't know about 911? the fbi and the cia weren't talking to each other? but things are different now, right? wrong. they wouldn't even tell us in new york city that the boston bomber's nectar gxt target was square. we had to hear it from the police department. so mr. president, when you talked about the most transparent administration in history, i guess you really meant that most transparent would be our phone calls and our records. terrorists, of course, excluded. >>> and this week, 22 embassies and consulates closed because of an al qaeda threat. wait a minute. here we go again. you say one thing but you do another. didn't you say in 2010 al qaeda was on the run and we were on its heels? >> hey, if you can complain about your phony scandals, i should be able to complain about your phony accomplishments. so who's on the run now? it looks like the united states. our government can't protect us, so we have to leave muslim co
why not just call the nsa and have them do the listening. oh, i forgot. the fbi doesn't talk to other agencies. isn't that whee wi didn't know about 911? the fbi and the cia weren't talking to each other? but things are different now, right? wrong. they wouldn't even tell us in new york city that the boston bomber's nectar gxt target was square. we had to hear it from the police department. so mr. president, when you talked about the most transparent administration in history, i guess you...
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plus, more revelations from nsa leaker edward snowden that show the nsa violated american's privacy thousands of times. can twitter predict election winners? the author of a new study that's getting a lot of buzz and could change the way campaigns connect in the future. first, a look ahead at today's politics planner. president obama is winding down his vacation but he's got the martha vineyard livestock and show. that looks fun. we're noting tomorrow, the english premier league soccer sticks off. liverpool versus totenham spurs. all five of you who follow english soccer no what i'm talking about. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. it guides you to a number it guides you to a number that will change your life: your sleep number setting. it will give you the soundest sleep you've ever had. it's a bed so intuitive it even knows you by name.
plus, more revelations from nsa leaker edward snowden that show the nsa violated american's privacy thousands of times. can twitter predict election winners? the author of a new study that's getting a lot of buzz and could change the way campaigns connect in the future. first, a look ahead at today's politics planner. president obama is winding down his vacation but he's got the martha vineyard livestock and show. that looks fun. we're noting tomorrow, the english premier league soccer sticks...
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>> well the nsa has a lost intelligence gathering programs. that's its business. it spies on foreigners. despite the hoopla we heard, it focuses own americans only if there is a connection with foreign enemies, foreign terrorist or foreign espionage activity. so i would be surprised if one of the nsa's electronic service programs wasn't involved. whether it was prism or x key stroke or the telephone logs that have been the subject of controversy. we don't know. but i tell you, going forward, it seems to me that those programs are ideally designed to try and help nsa and the government as a whole, put together these bits and pieces of information to tell us more of what the actual target of this might be. >> if the nsa program was indeed responsible for uncovering a terrorist plot, do you think, in the mind of many americans, their opinions about the surveillance by nsa will change? they may say, wait a minute. this does justify and vindicate the program in uncovering terrorist plots? >> i certainly hope so as more information comes out, whether we want it to or no
>> well the nsa has a lost intelligence gathering programs. that's its business. it spies on foreigners. despite the hoopla we heard, it focuses own americans only if there is a connection with foreign enemies, foreign terrorist or foreign espionage activity. so i would be surprised if one of the nsa's electronic service programs wasn't involved. whether it was prism or x key stroke or the telephone logs that have been the subject of controversy. we don't know. but i tell you, going...
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what do you think has been flawed about the reporting about nsa so far briefly? >> the biggest one, that you just laid out is an example. i want to talk about facts. and folks to want to be in this hysterical position, if you try to raise them up, they'll do the diatribes about who you are. i've been told i've been carrying water for the nsa because i want to talk about facts. >> unfortunately, we do have to leave it there. i have so much more to talk to you about. thank you so much. we'll be right back. check it out... over 20 million drivers are insured with geico. so get a free rate quote today. i love it! how much do you love it? animation is hot...and i think it makes geico's 20 million drivers message very compelling, very compelling. this is some really strong stuff! so you turned me into a cartoon...lovely. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka se
what do you think has been flawed about the reporting about nsa so far briefly? >> the biggest one, that you just laid out is an example. i want to talk about facts. and folks to want to be in this hysterical position, if you try to raise them up, they'll do the diatribes about who you are. i've been told i've been carrying water for the nsa because i want to talk about facts. >> unfortunately, we do have to leave it there. i have so much more to talk to you about. thank you so...
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democrats joining with more conservative republicans as we saw last week to raise concerns about the nsa and say they shouldn't be allowed to do these phone and internet tracking programs. you have those that are sort of, you know, more closely aligned with the intelligence community and work with it more often saying, no, this needs to continue but we are going to try to find some way to make sure that americans' privacy is protected. both the house and senate intelligence committees promise to do that and stop the votes and debate that has been going on ever since snowden made that revelation. >> susan, i want to circle back what ed said, the last couple of decades, russia has been our fre-enemy any way. what can the administration to at this particular time? >> the administration is not? a strong place when it comes to rush shall and snowden. the situation in syria were sdrefdoes he say tr-- distracied. we don't like the way moscow is close to the iranian regime. so the snowden affair is just one of a series of things that are irritants between the united states and russia and it's ha
democrats joining with more conservative republicans as we saw last week to raise concerns about the nsa and say they shouldn't be allowed to do these phone and internet tracking programs. you have those that are sort of, you know, more closely aligned with the intelligence community and work with it more often saying, no, this needs to continue but we are going to try to find some way to make sure that americans' privacy is protected. both the house and senate intelligence committees promise...
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nsa repeated low broke privacy rules. the report based on a may 2012 internal audit of the nsa and passed along by edward snowden. documents over 2700 specific privacy violations by the spy agency over a single 12-month period. the "post" reports most of the infractions involve unauthorized surveillance of americans or foreign intelligence targets in the united states. while the documents do not reveal how many americans were affected, they do appear to directly contradict what president obama said just last week. >> what you're not reading about is the government actually abusing these programs and listening in on people's phone calls or inappropriately reading people's e-mails. what you're hearing about is the prospect that these could be abused. now, part of the reason they're not abooufused is because these checks are in place. >> michael, these checks don't actually seem to be in place? >> yeah. >> a deep hmm. >> they sort of don't. this is a really problematic story for the administration. >> i think this one almost
nsa repeated low broke privacy rules. the report based on a may 2012 internal audit of the nsa and passed along by edward snowden. documents over 2700 specific privacy violations by the spy agency over a single 12-month period. the "post" reports most of the infractions involve unauthorized surveillance of americans or foreign intelligence targets in the united states. while the documents do not reveal how many americans were affected, they do appear to directly contradict what...
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nsa built a surveillance network than officials have publicly showed. it can reach 75% of all u.s. internet traffic. this is days after the british government destroyed laptops that supposedly had information from edward snowden's files on it. i mean, what are the repercussions of this? >> i want to say one can be disturbed about what was done to glenn greenwald's partner and one can be concerned about the extent that is being revealed by the snowden leaks about nsa leaking. one can be disturbed by all of those things. being disturbed and concerned and the general march towards secrecy does not thereby say and bradley manning should be pardoned or released. i just want to make that clear, that those -- one can be properly concerned about all of those things and think that the snowden effect is more good than bad, but that -- again, i would say that doesn't mean that all bets are off and anybody can leak anything. >> i am not proposing it's a zero sum game. i think the narrative around bradley manning is much more cemented in the anti-camp than the pro camp. he has controlled the me
nsa built a surveillance network than officials have publicly showed. it can reach 75% of all u.s. internet traffic. this is days after the british government destroyed laptops that supposedly had information from edward snowden's files on it. i mean, what are the repercussions of this? >> i want to say one can be disturbed about what was done to glenn greenwald's partner and one can be concerned about the extent that is being revealed by the snowden leaks about nsa leaking. one can be...
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there's shocking new reports on the nsa. >>> and guess what? they could be just of the tip of the iceberg. what you don't know about other spying programs at this moment where you are and we're talking about drones in america. >>> and an amazing breakthrough about the government's super secret spy property. the truth about area 51. it is real. this is no joke. a special report from people who know. >>> let's go "outfront."
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all of these developments is the fate of this young man, edward snowden, leaker of details of secret nsa surveillance programs stuck in limbo at the moscow airport for more than a month, before he was granted temporary asylum in russia. between us and russia, things are not awesome right now. things have not been awesome for i don't know -- things have not been awesome since 1947 basically. but they're bad enough now on trivial levels and on deeply serious levels, that the white house today essentially said, let's call the whole thing off. the white house today announcing that president obama has cancelled a scheduled one on one meeting between him and vladimir putin next month, during the g-20 summit in russia. given our lack of progress on issues, such as missile defense, arms control. global security issues and human rights and civil society in the last 12 months. we have informed the russian government we believe it would be more constructive to postpone the summit until we have more results from our shared agenda. russia's disappointing decision was also a factor that we considered
all of these developments is the fate of this young man, edward snowden, leaker of details of secret nsa surveillance programs stuck in limbo at the moscow airport for more than a month, before he was granted temporary asylum in russia. between us and russia, things are not awesome right now. things have not been awesome for i don't know -- things have not been awesome since 1947 basically. but they're bad enough now on trivial levels and on deeply serious levels, that the white house today...
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i'm about to start a bacon party in my tum-tum. >> anyway, concerned about nsa surveillance continues to mount. this week after new leaks revealed another secret program called x-keyscore which collects data from e-mails, social media and browser history. while these leaks continue to stoke characterizations of the agency as big brother, here is a parody from "wired" magazine's youtube channel depicting what it's really like inside the nsa. >> special projects, nicole. >> we have a situation. what you doing? >> i'm analyzing glenn greenwald's metadata. >> follow my instructions. are you ready? turn on your computer. >> it's already on. >> oh, you're a good kid. now, listen to me very carefully. i need you to hack a website. >> yes! i've been waiting for this moment. thank you so much. >> your youthful exuberance is wasting precious time. now, i'll give you the information. all right, where are we? >> jeez. >> have you hacked the site? >> yes, i hacked the site. >> was your cover blown? >> no. >> is the data i mentioned still there? >> yes, the data is all here. >> read me the data. >>
i'm about to start a bacon party in my tum-tum. >> anyway, concerned about nsa surveillance continues to mount. this week after new leaks revealed another secret program called x-keyscore which collects data from e-mails, social media and browser history. while these leaks continue to stoke characterizations of the agency as big brother, here is a parody from "wired" magazine's youtube channel depicting what it's really like inside the nsa. >> special projects, nicole....